'uncomfortable' is right--matt went right over an edge that while a downclimb was possible, it was crazy exposed--probably 70 ft to the bottom. when the other guy with us rodolfo (grew up in mexico city and has caved all over mexico) didnt want to do it, i didnt hesitate saying uh-uh-i don't think so... --kirk 
We spent almost 2 hours digging andcutting about a meter deep pile of debris away from the Lilburn entrance so that we could open the gate (after a brief questioning of whether this really was the right sinkhole because we couldn't see the gate). Weentered the cave and proceeded down the Corkscrew to South Seas Junction and followed the telephone cord to River Pit Ave. At R1 we encountered anexposed downclimb. I seemed to remember a description of this fromTinsley but was unsure. I did the climb, but others were uncomfortable with proceeding. I scouted ahead until I felt fairly sure that I was nearthe Flush Room and then returned. We looked for about half an hour for analternate route, but were unsuccesful. After scouting out a couple of climbing leads near River Pit we exited the cave. The main lead marked onJed's updated quad would require some kind of protection (probably acombination of bolts and slings). It windows out over River Pit and might actually be more easily climbed from there.While not successful in retrieving the wire at South Seas (our primaryobjective), we did succeed in clearing the entrance and introducing twonew cavers to the cave, and I also learned most of the route to South Seas. --Kirk
Got back early this morning and am dragging *ss today. had to hike out over 5 miles and a 1000' elev gain in almost 2 ft of new powder w/o snowshoes (everywhere was rented out on friday). great trip though--Lilburn is one crazy cave. over 20 surveyed miles, yet its probably half the size of fitton's. parts of it there's a five-way junction every 50 ft... you could get lost so terribly easy. i'm bruised and sore as well since even the "horizontal" sections we did had a lot of REALLY difficult mantle moves and chimneys, plus the two guys I was caving with were far more experienced and set a crazy murderous pace. oh yeah the cave entrance was buried under about 6 ft of downfall from the last storm so we had to spend about two hrs lifting and cutting logs, branches, etc just to get the gate unlocked. what a start... the cave is full of this cool bluish blacknwhite banded marble, but unfortunately no one took a camera in so i've asked matt to send me some photos from another trip or a link so i can pass them along. one guy i caved with Matt (he's from AR, and working on his PHd in astro-physics--his wife is from Maben, MS and is working on HER Phd in Physiology) actually caved Fitton's the weekend after we did using Bryan's trip report! what a small freakin' world... we stayed at this great rustic hut built by the cave research foundation just a few hundred yards from the entrance; hiked in around midnite friday nite, caved on saturday, hung around the cabin on sunday trying to stay warm (temp hovered between 15-28 deg all wknd) but snowshoed about 2 miles that nite w/ the researcher to this spring (every 40 min or so this spring will 'flush' and the h20 flow will peak dramatically for about a half-hour--part of the research is to nail down why and test the effects on the cave environment and stream ecology), then hiked out on monday after closing up the cabin. trail went right thru the largest sequoia groves on the planet... just beautiful. - Kirk
The contrast from the last "movie" is that in the other one there were periods with no music where you could hear the water and hear us talk without the music. I'd love to hear more of what everyone was saying in this one. I REALLY like the parts where you speeded it up and slowed it down... Great effects. I can't wait to see the whole thing...
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Shawn, dude, great job on "remastering" the '98, '01 and '04 tripphotos! Great captions! My kids are going to be especially happythat the picture of Kirk eating pizza on Mystery lunch break is backup. And you got Tim break-dancing in Mystery Falls on video!Awesome.I love the '98 pre-planning memos. Gotta have two boots, for sure.You've come a long way, mein Canyonführer.
Jacy took this photo overlooking the majestic Piney Falls at Fall Creek Falls.
